Episode 687: You Remind Me of a Man

“The question is: why are they here, and what are they after?”

Okay, it’s what, Tuesday? And Julia is freaking out about a ghost. Yeah, right on schedule.

Sorry to drop you into the middle of things like this, but this is how we roll in the six-nine. This is what television does now.

687 dark shadows julia storage room

Julia’s in another dusty storage room in Collinwood’s extensive dusty storage room district, looking for clues. She’s not really sure what kind of clues she’s looking for; she’s just kind of browsing.

You see, the children have been kind of weird lately, and there was this silversmith who died in the drawing room — well, actually, it started with the antique telephone, and Mr. Jughans, and then the strychnine, and when they dug on the spot where the ghost was pointing, they found a little coffin with a dead kid inside, so they took the pentagram necklace from around the kid’s neck, and the grandfather clock fell over. It’s been a whole thing. Just try to follow along.

That’s kind of all you can do right now, because this is the point where the show gets noticeably faster. The writing staff dumped the slowest guy on the team last week, and all of a sudden everybody is in a desperate hurry.

The last time they put their foot on the gas like this, it was the summer of 1968, but the show didn’t really get faster then; it just got weirder. They piled one strange thing on top of another, and just kind of stacked it up as high as they could until it fell over. There were two vampires, plus a Frankenstein and a lady Frankenstein, and a guy who was basically the Devil, and one of the vampires was a witch, and people traveled through time, and everyone was talking at once, all jockeying for airtime.

But they’re not going to make that mistake again, not when there’s a chance to make some new mistakes. There’s a lot of different elements in the current storyline, and they don’t really fit together in any kind of coherent way, but at least they don’t argue with each other all the time. Last summer, every bonkers story idea needed to be a whole character, and they each hated all the others. Now the story elements are mostly props, like the gramophone, or the dead silversmith, or the photo that Julia’s about to unearth in an old family album.

687 dark shadows beth photo

Today’s featured object is an extremely unlikely photograph of a tall young woman, standing in the Collinwood foyer and looking at nothing in particular. This is one of the ghosts currently infesting the house and leading everybody in circles. It’s been established that this woman was a servant in the 1890s, so I don’t know why somebody took a picture of her and stuck it in a photo album. Maybe they were having a scavenger hunt or something.

Now, once you’ve found an old photograph, there’s not that much you can do with it except look at it, and that doesn’t make for gripping television. I mean, 1960s soap operas tend to be kind of sedate, but there’s a general expectation that the pictures need to move, at least. That’s pretty much baseline.

687 dark shadows julia ghost

So the door slams shut on Julia, and then we get the usual bag of haunted house tricks — the window blows open and the curtains billow, the chandelier starts swaying around, and the candle blows out.

Julia gets kind of overwrought about it, crying and pounding on the door, although this is honestly not the scariest thing she’s seen lately. A few weeks ago, she watched a vampire smack a rampaging werewolf in the face with his cane. This is nothing.

687 dark shadows julia barnabas photo

So Barnabas comes in, and the haunted house routine comes to an abrupt end — but when Julia tries to show him the photograph, it’s mysteriously vanished from the album. They stand around and talk about it for exactly one minute and six seconds, and then we’re done with that, and we’re off to look at something else. I’m telling you, we do not have time to dawdle these days.

687 dark shadows chris pain

So it’s off to the next sequence on today’s program: the young bachelor werewolf at home. Chris is returning from a pleasant date with Carolyn, humming and smiling — and all of a sudden, he’s doubled over with pain.

687 dark shadows chris julia barnabas hurry

Chris makes a frantic call to Barnabas and Julia, and they rush over to the cottage to help. This is the agony that Chris always feels just before he turns into a werewolf, but there isn’t a full moon, and he shouldn’t be changing. I guess everybody’s in a hurry today.

Barnabas:  How much time do we have before the change begins?

Chris:  I don’t know — fifteen, maybe twenty minutes…

Barnabas:  That’ll give us enough time to get you to the mausoleum.

Chris:  No, we can’t do that — the pain, I just can’t get there in time!

687 dark shadows julia clock

But Barnabas gets Chris on his feet and bundles him into the car, then drives off to the mausoleum, where they can keep the werewolf locked up all night. Julia stays behind, so that she can stand near the clock and look worried. It’s 1:10 am, if anyone’s wondering.

687 dark shadows clock

Then the scene fades to a shot of the clock in the Collinwood foyer, because we are super obsessed with what time it is today.

687 dark shadows wristwatch

And then somebody knocks on the door, and we get a look at his wristwatch. That’s what Dark Shadows is these days, just an endless series of timepieces.

687 dark shadows carolyn ned hello

Carolyn answers the door — and standing on the mat, big as life, is Jeff Clark — Vicki’s husband, who married her and then traveled back to the 18th century with her, apparently forever. The last time we saw him was four weeks and a hundred and seventy years ago, heading off into the sunset with a new bride and a rap sheet. Now he’s standing on the porch at 1:10 in the morning. Isn’t life funny?

687 dark shadows ned carolyn clock

But as it turns out, the guy who strolls into the house uninvited and refuses to answer simple questions isn’t Jeff Clark after all. He’s a brand-new character named Ned Stuart, who’s decided to show up at Collinwood to look for his old friend, Chris.

So let’s just consult the resume for a second. When Roger Davis came on the show, it was during the 1795 storyline, and he played a young lawyer named Peter Bradford. When Vicki returned to the 1960s, she met a young amnesiac named Jeff Clark, who was actually Peter. Vicki and Jeff/Peter just left the show a month ago, and now Roger Davis is back, and calling himself Ned Stuart.

That means Roger is now the king of identical characters who show up for no reason with different names. They all wear the same clothes, and they have the same mannerisms, and they’re all obnoxious.

687 dark shadows ned carolyn lookalike

This feels like recasting, but it’s not — it’s actually the opposite of recasting, whatever that would be. Déjà casting?

Of course, they’ve had actors playing multiple characters before; that’s how they did a four-month flashback to the 18th century, using the same cast. They’ve also used the classic soap opera trick of bringing a popular actor back to the show after his character’s death by giving him a previously unmentioned identical twin.

But this is something new, one of those quiet Dark Shadows milestones that you don’t necessarily notice as it’s happening. This is the first truly casual déjà casting. Ned isn’t another incarnation of Peter/Jeff, he’s not a twin brother, and he’s not part of a new timeline. He’s just a different character, played by the same guy. A character leaves the show, you wait a month, and then the actor shows up as somebody else.

So that’s how things are, in this fast-paced futuristic world of Nineteen Hundred and Sixty-Nine. Clues appear and disappear before our eyes, the werewolf can’t wait for a full moon, and people show up at Collinwood in the middle of the night and claim to be different people. No wonder everyone keeps checking what time it is. What time isn’t it?

Tomorrow: Mostly Charmless.

Dark Shadows bloopers to watch out for:

In act 1, Julia tells Barnabas, “Someone wanted me to leave this room!” The ghost actually locked her in the room.

At the beginning of act 2, Barnabas asks, “Julia, are you absolutely convinced that the woman we s-s-saw in the photograph was the woman we saw the other evening?” He stumbles on the word “saw”, because he realizes that the line should be “the woman you saw in the photograph”.

Barnabas tells Chris, “If we go now, we’ll make it. If we keep here arguing, then it will be dangerous!”

Tomorrow: Mostly Charmless.

687 dark shadows julia exhausted

Dark Shadows episode guide

— Danny Horn

40 thoughts on “Episode 687: You Remind Me of a Man

  1. I don’t think Roger Davis is the first DS cast member to meet the criteria described here for Déjà casting, Vince O’Brien played lawman Dan Riley and then was recast as one of the Sheriffs Patterson.

    1. What about Thayer David? First playing Matthew Morgan and later recast as the Stokes family?

      1. Arguably, casting David as Ben Stokes was an extension of the same “cast existing performers in new roles” conceit everyone was involved in with 1795, and bringing him back as the professor was a sort of inversion of that same principle, now casting 1795 actors as new 1968 ones, rather like Peter and Jeff.

        It’s not quite the same with the leap from Jeff to Ned. There’s no “parallel/different time” buffer between them in any sense – not for the actor, who has now played two characters in the same time period one after the other, and not for the show, as they’ve stuck with the present day since Jeff’s departure. So it does feel a bit different, to me at least.

        Plus there is absolutely zero effort made to differentiate the characters. It makes me wonder if Ned was originally intended to eventually be revealed as Peter or Jeff or Peter/Jeff or Peter!Jeff, because aside from saying “no, I’m actually someone else”, neither the script not actor bother to do anything different with him, so it sort of feels like it’s a clue when it probably isn’t.

        1. When I first saw this episode I remember thinking that Ned must be the body that Peter Bradford possessed and Dr.Lang gave the name of Jeff Clark, and that he simply didn’t remember anything that happened during his possession. Maybe they had that idea in mind but ended up not following through… in any case, I think it would’ve been a great way to explain it.

          1. Before and after the “Return to 1796” episodes they spent a lot of time talking about how there had to be a body for Peter to possess in order to return to the present, so it really does seem like they were setting that up.

            I guess they couldn’t figure out a way to close the loop on that without reopening the Vicki/ Peter story. Since episode 686 featured David declaring to his father that the reason he was unwilling to meet him at the airport was that he was afraid that the drive back would involve “talking about Vicki” and that he couldn’t tolerate the prospect of the intense boredom such a conversation would generate, it seems likely the writers did not want to reintroduce that pairing.

      2. I’m with you. I think Matthew Morgan in present time to Professor Stokes in the same time is definitely a recast. Professor Stokes to Ben Stokes is the same time traveling casting as everyone else.

  2. It does seem odd that there would be a picture of a maid by herself. I imagine if Dark Shadows got the “Star Wars” treatment, they’d photoshop (old) Edith in to the picture.

    And we never really get a satisfying explanation for why Chris werewolfs on cue.

  3. Has it been confirmed yet that Beth was a maid? Based on dialogue and her clothing, it still seems like the intent is for Beth to have been the Collins governess of the period.

    When we return to 1897, Beth’s hair and clothing have changed significantly, and future flashbacks reflect the alteration.

  4. I like it when a new set shows up, like that storage room. It doesn’t look like a re- dress of any other room we’ve seen before. It breaks the monotony of the Collinwood foyer Or the Old House drawing room.

    1. Oh, he’ll drive, alright, as long as it’s not an electric car.
      For Barnabas, a car must be powered by candlelight.

    2. I suppose Barnabas considers driving a car different from preserving the “authencity” of the Old House. However, what’s interesting to me is that the “man out of time” aspect of Barnabas’s character vanished sometime in the middle of 1968. He doesn’t long for the past like he did in 1967 — yet another way he is almost the Earth 1 Barnabas.

      Barnabas’s backstory involved co-opting random bits of established history lying around when he arrived: Josette as the lost love and the Old House. 1991 DS approached those elements as gospel even if they don’t make as much sense outside the context of the series and are almost time wasters (Barnabas restoring the Old House, which in 1991 means little because, unlike the original series, the audience hasn’t spent a year or so thinking of the place as the creepy haunted house on the property).

      Now, the current kindly butler Uncle Barnabas might as well live at Collinwood. And he doesn’t have a coffin or even a murder lab to hide in the basement. A Barnabas with secrets is a more interesting Barnabas, which is what makes the Old House a great home base for him, but this Barnabas wouldn’t care that much if the place had electricity.

      1. It’s true, it no longer serves any purpose for Barnabas to draw the line before Edison. No more Victoria to share that obsession with.

    3. I’d like to see the birth date on his driver’s license. Also, for eye color it’s probably listed as BLD (for bloodshot).

  5. Fridstones, meet the Fridstones,
    They’re a modern sixties family…..

    From the
    Town of Fridrock…
    Got a place in daytime history……

    Let’s ride, with the Collins down the street.

    Through the courtesy of Frid’s two feet.

    When you’re….with the Fridstones….

    Okay. Finish it.

    Have a yabba dabba do time.

  6. He’s back…nooooooooooooo!

    Couldn’t they have died his hair, given him a beard…done something so he, at least, doesn’t look exactly like Jeff Clark/Peter Bradford.

    Whether he’s Jeff Clark, Peter Bradford, or Ned Flanders – he’s still horrible.

  7. It’s 1:10 am the entire episode. Chris’s cottage clock never changes, and when we see the Collinwood foyer grandfather clock at 1:10, Ned Stuart arrives at the door shortly before he goes to the cottage, where it’s still apparently 1:10 am even after Chris has come home from his date, started to transform, called Barnabas, and Barnabas and Julia have come to the cottage, Barnabas has taken Chris to the mausoleum, seen Chris transform there (he says), and returned to the cottage. They ARE in a hurry today–so much so that they are able to do about an hour’s worth of activities with no time passing. Have they entered the Speed Force or something?

  8. Looking only at the first couple of acts in this episode, it ranks among my favorite because of how adorably united Julia and Barnabas are, from their gentle manipulation of Liz to their race to help Chris. (Special 💘 pangs when Chris called asking Barnabas–and only Barnabas–to come to the cottage and, without first consulting Julia, Barnabas replies, “We’ll be right there.” Yes. They are so totally and perfectly a “we” now).

    But yeah…the last act in the show, with Roger Davis announcing himself in his most obnoxious role yet (and incestuous at that)…dammit. From such a happy high to such a nauseated low.

    (In this #metoo climate, I can’t help but wonder how many of his castmates might continue to reflect on how he molested them …on camera. 😦

  9. One thing that has caught my attention as I engage with DS “fandom” after a half-century away from this show, is the seemingly united dislike of certain actors or characters.

    Roger Davis wasn’t my hero back then (of course my heroes were Barnabas and then Quentin, nothing unique there), but I never disliked him. He didn’t annoy me in the least. But I never see anyone defend him nowadays…

    These DS conventions that you speak of, does he appear at them, I wonder, and do the fans reward him with a kick on the shins?

    It just seems 2018 DS fandom is united in a hatred of Davis and all his incarnations; I’m still not sure I understand that fully, though I did start to tire of the way he always grabbed Alexandra’s head every time they had a scene together. Maybe I’m seeing him a bit more through the “haters” eyes, I don’t know. And I even watched “Alias Smith and Jones” because he turned up there. For a few years in the ‘seventies, I tried to keep up with DS-players post-1971 careers.

    1. Several reasons: 1) He’s a horrible actor. 2) He groped the actresses too much, and they hated him for it. 3) He’s a horrible actor. 4) His characters are as one-not as a dog whistle. 5) He’s a horrible actor.

      1. That about covers it, Dan. 🙂 I was actually thinking yesterday how nice it’s been not to have RD on the show. So, to have his obnoxious self turn up today is almost more than I can bear. He even manages to make knocking on a door obnoxious.

    2. Just today I watched the 2020 cast reunion done on Zoom. In the early ‘80s I met Roger Davis, who was then involved (as an owner) with the restoration and reopening of the Seelbach Hotel in Louisville, when I went with my boss on a sales call to meet him. I’m not sure why I just told that because (a) I didn’t know at the time he had been on DS; he was known for Alias Smith & Jones, and (b) I really have no specific memories of that meeting other than it happening. So thank you in advance for indulging that pointless anecdote.

      But in the Zoom reunion, I wouldn’t want to take an oath, but it seemed that he got the lion’s share of the time; he just went on and on while others like Nancy Barrett, who is always so entertaining to listen to, Chris Pennock and James Storm hardly got to speak at all.

      Marie Wallace asked him if he remembered a scene where he threw her out of the frame, and he responded with an anecdote in which he recounted a time he knocked the almost 60 year old Joan Bennett to the floor in a scene.

      I don’t know, on one hand he seemed very appreciative of his time on DS and had only nice things to say.

      On the other, it took him so much time to say it, and my opinion of him has been colored by what fans here think of him, so I found myself wishing he’d shut up so that some of the others could speak.

  10. “The night is stormy and terrifying, blemished by the touch of one long dead. Somewhere in the shadows that engulf the great house at Collinwood, there exists the spirit of a man whose wickedness stains the pages of Collins family history – a man who has returned from the grave, bent upon destruction.”

    Interesting how, just a couple of years ago – with a little interpretive licence – today’s opening monologue could be talking about the same guy who is now the unquestioned hero of the show…

    I’m a bit confused about Julia’s first line, when she finds the photo of Beth – “it’s not possible!” Haven’t they already come to the conclusion that Beth is a ghost? Why else was she and Barnabas so eager to flip through family photo albums? Maybe it’s because she is also surprised to find that they’ve kept a photo of an old family maid?

    1. He’d have been much better! But he wasn’t available, he’d landed a part on another show and was happier there.

      When we’re mentally recasting the show, I always bring up Harvey Keitel and Fredric Forrest, who were both dancers at the Blue Whale in early episodes, and Keitel’s pal Robert DeNiro, who was a young actor in New York looking for work (and watching Dark Shadows!) at this time. Forrest always did a great line in characters who range from slightly uptight to seriously goofy, so I always imagine him as Frank Garner and Charles Delaware Tate. Keitel specializes in quietly intense, sometimes menacing characters, so he’s my choice for Peter Bradford/ Jeff Clark and Dirk Wilkins. Robert DeNiro is the man to play vaguely childlike, surprisingly articulate guys with a potential for explosive violence, so I see him as Buzz, Noah Gifford, Ned Stuart, and Morgan Collins. These recasts would leave Roger Davis, Conard Fowkes, Michael Hadge, and Keith Prentice out.

      There’s also David Groh, who appeared in an episode as the ghost of the guy whose right arm went into making Adam. He’d have been great as Harry Johnson. So, he and DeNiro would split up Craig Slocum’s roles.

  11. I love that last screen cap of Julia. She looks like she’s just found out that Roger Davis is back.

  12. They could have at least given him a monocle or a turban or something. Frankly, I’d rather Harry come back.

  13. A possible blooper: Grayson Hall is looking at the candle in the storage room, presumably waiting for it to go out so she can have another fright reaction, but it takes so long to go out that she ends up looking away, thus losing out on said chance.

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